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Ed Newton-Rex: Why I’m deleting my SoundCloud account.

News 617 May 13, 2025 0
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MBW Views is a sequence of op/eds from eminent music business folks… with one thing to say. This MBW Views op/ed comes from Ed Newton-Rex (pictured), CEO of the moral generative AI non-profit, Pretty Skilled.  

Ed’s opinion piece follows the commotion over the weekend surrounding an replace noticed in SoundCloud’s T&Cs requiring customers to “agree that [their] Content material could also be used to tell, prepare, develop or function enter to synthetic intelligence or machine intelligence applied sciences”.

SoundCloud has issued a response (which you’ll learn in full over on the Verge) to make clear its insurance policies round AI, stating that the platform “has by no means used artist content material to coach AI fashions, nor will we develop AI instruments or permit third events to scrape or use SoundCloud content material from our platform for AI coaching functions”.

Over to Ed…


When it emerged final week that SoundCloud have up to date their phrases of service to allow them to coach AI fashions on customers’ music, I used to be eager to provide them the good thing about the doubt.

I’ve been a SoundCloud consumer for years, and I love a lot about what they’ve constructed. I wished to consider this was an sincere mistake, some mistranslation as a phrases replace went into impact.

Sadly, even for a platform that calls itself artist-first like SoundCloud, it appears to be like just like the attract of a trove of coaching knowledge is simply too nice to be turned down within the age of generative AI.

The phrases replace dates all the way in which again to February 2024, nevertheless it went largely unnoticed till now. The vital half is that this:

“You explicitly agree that your Content material could also be used to tell, prepare, develop or function enter to synthetic intelligence or machine intelligence applied sciences or providers as a part of and for offering the providers.”

When folks began calling them out on this final week, their preliminary assertion in response was couched in artist-friendly language:

“SoundCloud has by no means used artist content material to coach AI fashions”.

“Any future utility of AI at SoundCloud will probably be designed to assist human artists”.

This was sufficient for some. However I assumed it was notable for what it didn’t say. It didn’t say they weren’t planning on coaching generative AI on their customers’ music in future.

And in these circumstances, when you weren’t planning on coaching in your customers’ music, you’d positive as hell say so.

Fortunately, some pushed them on this. And their response to The Verge laid out what a few of us had suspected however not wished to consider (emphasis mine): “Importantly, no such use has taken place up to now, and SoundCloud will introduce sturdy inside permissioning controls to control any potential future use.”

In different phrases, they haven’t dominated out utilizing their customers’ music to coach generative AI fashions sooner or later – and their phrases of service explicitly permit it.

And, to make issues worse, they’re already hinting that customers must opt-out of this association, somewhat than SoundCloud asking customers’ permission: “Ought to we ever think about using consumer content material to coach generative AI fashions, we’d introduce clear opt-out mechanisms upfront—at a minimal”.

That is once more worded to attempt to sound artist-friendly, however it’s nothing of the kind. Decide-out mechanisms for generative AI coaching are massively unfair to musicians, for a heap of causes I’ve talked about earlier than.

That is why the overwhelming majority of musicians reject them.

That is already sufficient to make me delete my SoundCloud, which I’ve completed immediately. A streaming platform shouldn’t be exploiting its customers’ music to coach generative AI fashions with out their express permission. That is non-negotiable.

However there are two additional causes I’m significantly nervous about SoundCloud’s actions right here, which strengthened my choice to take my music down and stop the service.

The primary is that they don’t appear to have advised customers after they made this variation to the phrases. I’ve trawled my emails, and I can’t discover something. Nor can a bunch of different folks I do know.

In the event you’re going to start out reserving the appropriate to make use of folks’s music for one thing completely orthogonal to what they signed as much as the service for – significantly one thing as inflammatory as AI coaching – you need to inform them. I imply, I think legally you need to inform them, and I’m positive questions will probably be requested right here. However regardless of that, it’s simply clearly incorrect to do that with out telling folks.

And the second – and that is the one I believe is admittedly unhealthy – is that they’re treating artists with no label worse than those that are signed.

“The TOS explicitly prohibits using licensed content material, reminiscent of music from main labels, for coaching any AI fashions, together with generative AI,” they are saying.

“For different forms of content material uploaded to SoundCloud, the TOS permits for the potential of AI-related use.” To SoundCloud, artists with no label are apparently second-class residents, who don’t deserve the identical protections as artists who’re signed. Now, this might effectively be attributable to language of their offers with the key labels. And I don’t fault the key labels for getting that language in there, if that’s the case.

However why on earth would a platform that’s imagined to satisfaction itself on current to serve all musicians, whose raison d’être absolutely is to let anybody’s music be heard – why would such a platform deal with unsigned artists so poorly, and topic them, and solely them, to involuntary AI coaching on their music?

Plenty of the music group appear incensed, and it’s straightforward to see why. That is an terrible coverage, unfair at its core, and disproportionately unfair to unsigned artists. I do know I’m not the one musician who has deleted their music from SoundCloud in current days.

There’s nonetheless time for SoundCloud to rectify this. It’s potential that they don’t actually have any plans in generative AI, that these up to date phrases and their current statements are a hedge greater than the rest, and after they perceive how their customers really feel they’ll realise that turning folks’s music into coaching knowledge isn’t value it.

For me to return, it might take a dedication to not prepare generative AI on customers’ music, and an replace to their phrases that units that in stone.

Given their response to the unfolding saga to date, I’m not optimistic. Generative AI appears to have the capability to make firms overlook their goal and why their customers love them.

However I’m additionally hopeful that there are sufficient staff at SoundCloud who’re repelled by the thought of coaching on their customers’ music with out express permission, and that their voices will make a distinction. You must maintain out hope.Music Enterprise Worldwide

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