Reel Rumbles: The Hunchback of Notre Dame vs Hercules

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We’re again with the Nice Disney Reel Rumble Retrospective! We’ve moved onto the later half of the Renaissance Period. After the blended reception to Pocahontas, Disney was seemingly hoping to regain some momentum. However the subsequent two movies, whereas positively obtained, didn’t fairly attain the heights of the blazing begin of the Renaissance. Nonetheless, each have their champions, so let’s discover out which comes out on prime!

The Historical past of the Movies

The Hunchback of Notre Dame‘s origins lie with one man (except for the creator Victor Hugo): David Stainton. Stainton will develop into fairly essential in some later articles, however for now, his story begins together with his rise via the ranks of Disney’s executives. After succeeding on the tv aspect, he ultimately wound up as Vice President of Inventive Affairs at Disney’s Animation Studios. Able of inventive management, Stainton made his first mark on the firm by championing this adaptation.

He was impressed after studying a comic-book model of the Hugo novel and pitched it to Jeffrey Katzenberg. Katzenberg was enamored by the concept and approached the directing pair of Gary Trousdale and Kirk Sensible, who had been taking it simple after their success with Magnificence and the Beast. Other than aiding different tasks, they had been exploring different inventive concepts. By happenstance, they had been drawn to the concept of constructing a narrative a couple of hunchback, er, that’s, humpback whale. It seemingly didn’t take a lot to persuade them to pivot, with Sensible excited in regards to the ebook’s deep storytelling.

By October 1993, a inventive workforce together with the aforementioned administrators, the artwork director, songwriter Stephen Schwartz (creator of the musical and now latest hit movie Depraved), and a number of other others all went to Paris. They took images, explored the Notre Dame, and located a ebook of Victor Hugo’s watercolor work. The work had been a fortunate discover, as that they had a visible type much like their early idea work. The workforce had been feeling dissuaded, because it was completely different from the everyday Disney type, however Hugo’s work made them decided it was the fitting course.

Outdoors screenwriter Tab Murphy was employed to pen the screenplay, beginning a protracted profession writing animated movies, together with a multiyear stint at Disney. Murphy and the others wrestled via many drafts attempting to determine the way to take a reasonably darkish and mature story and switch it into one thing within the Disney mildew. Determining the dynamic between Esmeralda, Phoebus, and Quasimodo was one of many trickier questions, although it was decided pretty early that the main focus can be on Quasimodo. They toyed with love triangles and extra. One other early choice was to alter Claude Frollo from an archdeacon to a decide to keep away from portraying the church because the villain, as an alternative utilizing the church as a spot of refuge and molding Frollo after Ralph Fiennes in Schindler’s Record.

Uncommon for an animated movie was an early casting selection, that of Cyndi Lauper. Lauper was forged solely per week after studying for an element. She figured she can be taking part in Esmeralda and was shocked to study she that was voicing a gargoyle. Sensible and Trousdale had determined so as to add speaking gargoyles, figuring the story wanted some basic Disney comic-relief aspect characters. The gargoyles had been initially named after the three actors that performed Quasimodo in prior movie variations (Lon Chaney, Charles Laughton, and Anthony Quinn) however Disney’s authorized workforce objected. The characters had been reworked a number of occasions, and Katzenberg even thought-about a cadre of late-night hosts (Jay Leno, Arsenio Corridor, and David Letterman) to play them. Ultimately they landed on Jason Alexander, and the feminine gargoyle was modified to behave as a clever counsel to Quasimodo. With Lauper apparently now not appropriate for that, she was let go and Mary Wickes wound up with the half, in what can be her remaining function. Maybe this exhibits why early casting doesn’t occur in animated movies that always.

As for the leads, Katzenberg initially wished Meat Loaf of all folks as Quasimodo, however Tom Hulce stole the function together with his first audition and steered in the direction of portraying the character as youthful, one thing that prior movie variations had not achieved. Hulce was additionally capable of proceed the development of actors doing their very own singing. Not so fortunate was Demi Moore. Whereas her huskier voice landed her the a part of Esmerelda because it made her stand out in comparison with prior Disney princesses, Schwartz was not impressed by her singing expertise.

Kevin Kline, in the meantime, was the primary selection for Phoebus. Neither he nor Moore needed to audition. The administrators hoped to do the identical with Frollo, asking Anthony Hopkins to do the half. Hopkins declined, in order that they turned to the very prepared Tony Jay, whom that they had labored with on Magnificence and the Beast.

Animation occurred alongside Pocahontas on the new Burbank animation studio. Due to the depth of the animation for that movie and The Lion King, outdoors animators had been employed to assist on this movie, together with many from overseas nations. Disney additionally pulled labor from lots of its satellite tv for pc studios. A large chunk of animation wound up being achieved on the Paris studio, turning this into a really worldwide manufacturing. Additionally pitching in was expertise from Characteristic Animation Florida, which was exhausting at work on its first in-house manufacturing, Mulan. CGI was employed for big crowd scenes, together with the invention of a brand new CGI know-how.

The music for the movie got here from the aforementioned Schwartz and Alan Menken. After the pair’s exhausting work on Pocahontas, they got free reign of their subsequent mission. The pair selected The Hunchback of Notre Dame on account of its darker and extra mature themes. Menken and Schwartz labored on a posh rating that weaved in a number of leitmotifs and in addition developed particular person songs for practically each character. One such track was the villain’s theme of “Hellfire,” which was notable for initially touchdown the movie a PG ranking on account of a lyric mentioning sin.

One other notable improvement was the opening track. The opening sequence was lauded across the studio for successfully conveying some sizable exposition, however the ending touches got here courtesy of Stephen Schwartz. Upon listening to Katzenburg remark that one thing was lacking, he advised turning it right into a musical quantity. Thus “The Bells of Notre Dame” was born, and it turned one of many movie’s extra well-known sequences.

The film was initially scheduled for a 1995 launch, however Katzenberg’s departure from Disney wound up delaying issues. On account of its French setting, the movie was first launched in New Orleans with the premiere preceded by a parade via the French Quarter. It additionally employed an enormous advertising and marketing marketing campaign together with many tie-ins and merchandising alternatives.

This all paid off with a $21.3 million opening weekend. This was lower than the opening weekend of Pocahontas, however a distribution government of all folks had religion that it could do higher over time, and by the tip of its run it wound up with $225.2 million, surpassing Pocahontas. Important response was largely constructive with Roger Ebert declaring it the perfect from the studio since Magnificence and the Beast. Even the French had been largely receptive. There have been some notably detrimental responses, with a Hugo scholar declaring that Disney had butchered the ebook. Different reviewers felt that the movie fell again on Disney cliches to keep away from wrestling with the darker features of the story. But the constructive reception for the movie highlights the extra grownup themes in comparison with most Disney works. This brought about many guardian teams to arrange boycotts of the film.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame has maintained a good legacy. Whereas not as titanic as a lot of the previous movies of the Renaissance, it nonetheless earned its share of straight-to-video and DVD spinoffs, a stage musical (if solely in Germany), and involvement in crossover media similar to Home of Mouse and Kingdom Hearts. The movie has a small presence on the Disney parks, with characters showing all through the entire parks and two particular points of interest at Disneyland California and Hong Kong Disneyland.

It’s also in line for a live-action remake, which is drawing from each the animated movie and the unique novel. Nevertheless, manufacturing has stalled because of the issue of adapting the darker materials into live-action, and since Disney is doubtlessly reconsidering its method within the wake of latest backlash and diminished box-office returns. Whether or not it occurs or not, the movie’s legacy general is safe as a robust mid-tier-or-better effort from the studio.

As with Hunchback, Hercules started at Disney with a single man’s concept. Not like Hunchback, that man had no additional involvement previous the pitch. When Disney was taking pitches from its animators for movies, Joe Haidar had the concept of adapting the story of Hercules from Greco-Roman mythology, and he pushed on with it regardless of an concept for adapting The Odyssey simply having been rejected. His define was sturdy sufficient that Hercules was greenlit, although Haidar was left behind.

The profitable directing pair of Ron Clements and John Musker (Aladdin) took over the movie as they fought to supply Treasure Planet. Katzenberg would solely allow them to transfer ahead with that movie in the event that they did one other first that Katzenberg deemed extra commercially viable. The pair had been drawn to Hercules on account of being followers of comedian books and seeing him as a sort of superhero.

They dove deep into the analysis course of on varied mythological tales and began to ascertain the story in a basic Hollywood vein, seeing the titular hero as a Jimmy Stewart kind and the principle love curiosity, Meg, as akin to Barbara Stanwyck‘s screwball comedy roles. The pair additionally decided {that a} direct adaptation of the tales can be inconceivable at Disney, as Hercules was the product of Zeus’s infidelity within the mythology, and so they shifting towards making Hades the central villain. They noticed potential in a visible distinction between Mt. Olympus and the Underworld.

A number of rewrites occurred to amp up the comedy and refine Hercules into somebody akin to the “Michael Jordan of his period,” as they described him. Who would play this Michael Jordan? Donny Osmond was the preliminary consideration, however they discovered his voice too deep. Tate Donovan wound up being forged regardless of no prior voice performing expertise, on account of producers having fun with his boyish method to the function, emphasizing the naive innocence of the titular hero.

The artwork course of Hercules got here from a novel place: a mix of basic Greek artwork and the works of English cartoonist Gerald Scarfe. Clements and Musker discovered similarities within the types, and so they led Disney to rent Scarfe on to function manufacturing designer. In the end, animators discovered Scarfe’s type too chaotic to immediately adapt, so he wound up as extra of a stylistic reference than a direct supply.

The Burbank studio employed practically 700 folks to begin animation in 1995. This is able to be the most important workforce of animators so far, surpassing all prior Disney productions. Animators from different productions would be part of the workforce as different movies completed. Because of the elevated deal with particular character designs, some fascinating references had been discovered for specific characters. Phil can be primarily based on Grumpy from Snow White and Bacchus from Fantasia.

Hades can be primarily based on the mannerisms of his voice actor, James Woods. Woods was not the unique selection, regardless of his now iconic voice efficiency. The primary selection was Jack Nicholson, advised by Danny DeVito. He had been forged because the satyr Phil after initially turning it down. It took Disney begging him to take it after nobody labored out and one of many individuals who auditioned advised DeVito as nicely. Nicholson couldn’t be begged into a job, with the financials not understanding after he demanded a bigger proportion of merchandise.

John Lithgow was then forged. Regardless of signing on, the producers couldn’t discover a approach to make his efficiency work. After letting him go, Disney went via many actors together with Kevin Spacey, Rod Stieger, and James Coburn. Woods finally gained the function, as Disney was impressed by his distinctive tackle the character.

One other storied casting choice was Susan Egan as Meg. Egan had auditioned for each Disney movie since Magnificence and the Beast, however she saved being denied. It began out as the identical outdated track with Hercules, with Alan Menken not even eager to let her audition, as he was aware of her stage function as Belle within the Broadway Magnificence and the Beast and felt the roles had been too completely different. Menken ultimately relented, and Egan proved she understood the method with Meg, profitable the function 9 months after her audition.

As one may suspect, Menken did the rating for this movie. This is able to be his final one for Disney in the course of the Renaissance. He was paired with lyricist David Zippel, who was conversely on his first Disney movie. Whereas reception to this soundtrack was blended on the entire, “Go the Distance” nabbed them an Oscar nomination for Greatest Unique Tune.

This factoid is an efficient microcosm of the response to the complete movie. Hercules debuted in June 1997 following one other in depth advertising and marketing marketing campaign. Persevering with a post-Lion King development, Hercules made much less cash in its first two weeks than every of the prior movies, solely making $58 million, leading to Disney’s inventory value slipping. Its whole worldwide gross did recuperate considerably, ending at $253 million and surpassing the prior Disney two movies. It appeared that these films simply wanted extra time to earn a living, although all did not stay as much as the beginning of the Renaissance.

Critics had been much more blended on this than Hunchback. On the one hand, Woods was universally praised for his function as Hades, with many declaring him the perfect character in Disney’s 90s output alongside Robin Williams‘s Genie. And a few critics had been variety to the movie general, similar to Roger Ebert. Nevertheless, many felt the animation and music had been a downgrade from prior efforts. A number of critics stated the Scarfe type wound up trying low-cost and the music was vague, mixing too many types and failing to depart an impression. The Greek authorities was pretty harsh on the movie as nicely, feeling it did not seize their tradition and mythology.

Regardless of Hercules not fairly measuring as much as prior movies, it maintains a good legacy. Along with its Oscar nomination, it nabbed a number of different awards and nominations. It was going to get a direct-to-VHS sequel, although that wound up cancelled after John Lasseter took cost at Disney and halted all such sequels. As an alternative, it obtained a TV sequence. It additionally obtained a stage-play and will get some recognition on the Disney parks. It has maintained a serious half within the Kingdom Hearts online game sequence and obtained just a few different online game variations. Hercules may also be getting a live-action movie adaptation, assuming these transfer ahead. Such a movie will probably be impressed by TikTok musicals, no matter meaning.

Spherical 1: Story

The Hunchback of Notre Dame rightfully receives accolades for its thematic maturity. In an Elephant Man-like story, the movie immediately wrestles with bigotry primarily based on visible deformity, and Quasimodo’s struggles to be accepted. This immediately parallels the biases on show within the movie, with the villainous Frollo wanting to guide a persecution in opposition to the gypsy folks and basically commit an ethnic cleaning. The film barely disguises these motivations, permitting a stunning quantity of darkness to creep into the movie.

Frollo himself is allowed to be a reasonably ugly villain. He’s depicted lusting after Esmeralda with a suggestive sniff of her hair, and his villain track “Hellfire” underlines his wishes and the violent decision to escaping these wishes. The spiritual symbolism of sin, Hell, and forgiveness are all stunning additions. Likewise, the film’s depiction of the Catholic priest who runs the Notre Dame as a benevolent determine providing protected haven to the gypsies and rundown members of society provides nuance to the entire spiritual parts. The movie surprisingly demonstrates the broad swath of Christianity and the way some abuse the faith and its message alongside the ability of grace and love.

The mature method is such that the everyday Disney comedian reduction nearly feels misplaced in consequence. As pleasing as Jason Alexander is as a gargoyle, these characters do really feel a bit extraneous. One needs that Disney had been daring sufficient to toss apart the acquainted plot beats and factors and commit extra totally to being a mature movie, although that seemingly wouldn’t have helped their backside line on the time the place animation was nonetheless seen as primarily kids’s materials.

Regardless of the depth of character and themes, the story of the movie isn’t with out warts. There are factors the place the script shortcuts issues. Choose Frollo arbitrarily reveals he killed Quasimodo’s dad and mom regardless of a scarcity of clear benefit to doing so. The finale additionally feels a bit rushed into, because the movie pivots forwards and backwards from Quasimodo studying from Esmeralda to briefly being a buddy movie with Phoebus. A firmer narrative hand might need helped.

In fact, that’s a good bigger downside with Hercules. On account of having to adapt from centuries of myths, the plot construction of Hercules is missing fairly a bit. After the preliminary set-up, there isn’t a clear narrative course previous Hercules “being a hero.” Whereas the concept of a extra moralistic plot, with Hercules discovering out what heroism means, isn’t a foul concept, it creates a narrative construction of “after which this occurs” sequence of occasions than any clear development. Hades has a plan to take over Olympus by releasing the Titans, nevertheless it’s not fairly clear why he doesn’t do this firstly of the movie, because it looks like he might have freed them at any time.

The movie’s heavy reliance on humor and popular culture references can also be a blended bag. Whereas some are fairly amusing (the visible nod of Hercules’s lion pores and skin being Scar is cute), others come throughout as easy references, and the abundance of them tends in the direction of Hercules not feeling as timeless as different Disney movies. It nearly seems like a insecurity within the precise story being advised.

That stated, this does boast among the stronger characters within the Renaissance. Whereas Hercules himself is extra plain Jane, zero-to-hero character, Hades is a standout villain. Woods’s vocal efficiency is certainly instantly fascinating. His supply is the proper combination of wry and dry whereas additionally believably capturing divine rage when one thing doesn’t go his manner. His visible design (extra on that later) works nicely in tandem with the character’s general method to develop into one of many all-time finest Disney villains.

Likewise, Meg is a much more fascinating romantic curiosity than somebody like Nala and even Esmeralda. Egan’s vocal efficiency offers her loads of spunk, and her morally atypical method is intriguing. She wrestles with saving herself by serving Hades, whereas hurting others. The writing helps make her an energetic character all through the movie, quite than fading into the background.

On this manner, each movies are depending on sturdy characters and themes over compelling plots. Each films have structural points that maintain them again from competing with the higher members of the Renaissance. But they each have among the many extra fascinating villains in Disney canon. In the end, Hunchback of Notre Dame prevails as a result of it has a way of story construction, even when the execution is missing. Hercules meanders an excessive amount of and could be a drag at occasions, regardless of the enjoyable fights and Hades chewing up surroundings.

Winner: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Spherical 2: Music

After the titanic soundtracks from the final six movies, it may be exhausting to measure up. These soundtracks shouldn’t have any “Circle of Life,” “Magnificence and the Beast,” or “A Entire New World” to cement them into immortality, however to be honest, these are amongst Disney’s finest ever songs. Whereas there may be nothing at that degree, Hunchback does have just a few good ones.

The opening “The Bells of Notre Dame” is admired by Alan Menken himself as his finest opening monitor. It’s skillfully executed, conveying quite a bit of exposition in a succinct and attractive method. It rides the road completely between clarification and by no means getting slowed down below its personal weight. The track additionally units the tone for the movie nicely, with choral chanting, church bells, and bombastic trumpets. The sequence itself is kind of colourful too. And as already talked about, “Hellfire” is the opposite main spotlight. Whereas the melody isn’t as catchy as “Be Ready,” say, the work it does for Frollo’s villainy is maybe unmatched within the Disney canon. With the red-robed choir and fiery imagery, this can be a memorable a part of the movie.

The remainder of the soundtrack fails to face out. “Out There” is a reasonably typical Disney protag track about wanting to flee one’s circumstances. Hulce’s singing voice isn’t unhealthy, however the monitor developments in the direction of the generic. “Topsy-Turvy” is a extra comedic monitor and matches nicely with the movie’s aural panorama, however doesn’t stand out within the canon. “God Assist the Outcasts” is the perfect of the remainder, and is Esmeralda’s sole musical quantity. Written as a prayer for help, it does have some poignancy and a stunning vocal flip from Heidi Mollenhauer. It too developments a bit in the direction of generic, however there may be extra to it than a lot of the soundtrack.

Regardless of Hercules‘s poor fame on the musical aspect, many a millennial who grew up on this one typically reward the songs. No matter one’s place on the entire of the soundtrack, “Go the Distance” is rightfully hailed because the standout track. The equal of the various princess “I need” songs, Roger Bart’s efficiency attracts the viewers into sympathy for Hercules eager to rise above and discover his place. The trumpets and piano work collectively fairly nicely to make it an inspirational piece within the vein of different such Broadway songs, and Bart’s remaining held word is spectacular.

The remainder of the soundtrack is the place the division comes. Some actually benefit from the soul-influenced “Zero to Hero,” “The Gospel Reality,” and “A Star is Born,” particularly as a change of tempo from the Broadway stylings of different Disney songs. But others state these herald a musical discordance and end in a soundtrack that’s everywhere sonically. To this reviewer, each of those statements are true to some extent. The soul is a pleasant change, nevertheless it doesn’t actually mesh nicely with “Go the Distance,” and the songs are a bit easy in comparison with precise soul songs.

Regardless, nearly as good as one track is, it isn’t sufficient to raise Hercules above on this class. Hunchback matches “Go the Distance” with “Hellfire” and has different elements of its soundtrack to topple the Greek hero.

Winner: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Spherical 3: Animation and Course

This pair is likely one of the larger contrasts in animation approaches between two Disney movies. Hunchback goals for largely photorealism with its animation, which is a profitable method. The depiction of Paris is superb: extremely detailed and bringing town to life. The intense colours utilized within the Romani clothes are eye-catching and type a pleasant dichotomy with the darkish, cooler colours of Choose Frollo’s apparel. The design of the characters is expressive with out ever shedding realism.

The identical might be stated for the gargoyles themselves. Regardless of the inherent unrealism of speaking gargoyles, they hold the designs grounded, with the beasts hopping round on account of a scarcity of legs. Even when the movie will get a little bit extra surrealistic, similar to within the wonderful “Hellfire” sequence with its expressive content material like fires burning and an impossibly giant choir singing, it maintains a realism that provides to the ability of the second.

Hercules, however, leans into type above all. One can’t fault the workforce for at the least attempting one thing completely different, melding the type of Greek vase artwork with the cartoonist Scarfe. The method actually works for sure features. Meg’s character design actually works, trying like a contemporary model of a lady pulled off these vases. The intro and different narration sequences of the Muses play out partially on one such vase, which is visually grabbing.

The Hydra was extremely spectacular when it debuted as nicely. The CGI provides to the surrealistic look of the monster and is used to its fullest extent. Hercules’s battle with the many-headed creature is maybe probably the greatest sequences. And talking of monsters and villains, the design of Hades is a crown jewel. Whereas departing from typical depictions of Hades, Disney’s method was a profitable one. His fixed flaming hair, lithe determine, crooked enamel, and blue pores and skin all make him fairly distinct. And the selection to have his pores and skin shoot vibrant purple and his fires to burn extra fiercely (although technically blue hearth is hotter) was a genius one.

As a lot as among the criticism of the animation could also be a tad harsh, it isn’t completely unwarranted. Sequences of bigger areas similar to Thebes, random Greek fields, and the Underworld are a tad uninspiring. Even Mt. Olympus is a tad simplistic. Whether or not it’s due to manufacturing crunch or the stylistic selection not fairly understanding, elements of the movie do look a bit low-cost in comparison with many different movies of the Renaissance period.

Whereas the animation in Hercules could also be underrated, it nonetheless doesn’t fairly measure as much as Hunchback of Notre Dame. Hunchback has well-designed characters and landscapes. Whereas Hades could also be the perfect character general, he can’t raise the load and defeat Hunchback by itself. The detailed backgrounds and settings of Paris merely dazzle compared to the Greek settings of Hercules. A disgrace, as Greece is a rustic wealthy for animated depiction.

Winner: The Hunchback of Notre Dame

And the winner is…

Should you’ve been conserving rating, then the result’s apparent. The Hunchback of Notre Dame is the winner. The 2 are nearer than the sweep may recommend, and none of them measure as much as the prior giants of the Renaissance period. Hunchback‘s maturity and craftsmanship put it extra on par with these earlier movies, it simply wanted some barely higher songs on the entire and a tighter story to get to that very same degree. Hercules has some actually sturdy parts, however the general plot wanted numerous work and it’s a bit musically missing. Nonetheless, Hercules has its followers, and it nonetheless fares higher than lots of movies we’ve ranked.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame

  • Ranked #3,709 globally
  • Wins 34% of matchups
  • 16,119 customers have ranked it 146,471 occasions
  • 19 have it as their #1 movie
  • Ranked 38/71 within the Walt Disney Animation Studios filter

Hercules

  • Ranked #2,230 globally
  • Wins 41% of matchups
  • 20,829 customers have ranked it 194,804 occasions
  • 22 have it as their #1 movie
  • Ranked 25/71 within the Walt Disney Animation Studios filter
  1. The Lion King (1994)
  2. Bambi (1942)
  3. Magnificence and the Beast (1991)
  4. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
  5. Aladdin (1992)
  6. Cinderella (1950)
  7. The Little Mermaid (1989)
  8. Fantasia (1940)
  9. Peter Pan (1953)
  10. The Fox and the Hound (1981)
  11. The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
  12. The Jungle E book (1967)
  13. Robin Hood (1973)
  14. Alice in Wonderland (1951)
  15. Pinocchio (1940)
  16. Hercules (1997)
  17. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977)
  18. One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961)
  19. Woman and the Tramp (1955)
  20. Oliver & Firm (1988)
  21. Pocahontas (1995)
  22. The Rescuers (1977)
  23. The Aristocats (1970)
  24. The Black Cauldron (1985)
  25. Dumbo (1941)
  26. Sleeping Magnificence (1959)
  27. The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (1949)
  28. The Nice Mouse Detective (1986)
  29. The Three Caballeros (1944)
  30. The Rescuers Down Underneath (1990)
  31. The Sword within the Stone (1963)
  32. Melody Time (1948)
  33. Saludos Amigos (1942)
  34. Enjoyable and Fancy Free (1947)
  35. Make Mine Music (1946)

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